There’s an interesting question I’ve been asking myself lately: would people be able to recognize an incarnation of God, if this incarnation failed to conform to their expectations?
I always find it funny how people just assume they have an infallible sense for detecting God, assuming you just can’t go wrong with something as big, and yet Jesus was crucified for “pretending to be God”, Milarepa was poisoned for “pretending to be enlightened”, Buddha had a sworn enemy, Devadatta, who tried to discredit him in all possible ways and tried to kill him, and Krishna was routinely maligned and insulted by his enemies, who tried to kill him almost on a daily basis. So, you will forgive me if I don’t just accept it as a fact that people will automatically and trivially detect an incarnation of God, and, even if they did, that they would react positively to one.
The implicit assumption is, of course, that an incarnation of God will have lightning bolts coming from his arse and there would be so much obvious power and omniscience demonstrated that all doubt would be automatically removed. That is basically the argument under which Jesus was crucified: he didn’t have lightning bolts coming out of his arse and claimed to be God. Let’s kill him.
People seem to concentrate on the “God” part, and not the “incarnation” part. They expect God to simply break the world by manifesting in it, because He’s so powerful He’ll simply crush every obstacle in His path. But that’s not how the “incarnation” part works. The incarnation thing means you are human, with human properties and constraints. If you’re God, it only means your soul is bigger and made of higher substance. However, unless someone can verifiably demonstrate his ability to detect the type and size of a soul incarnate in any specific body, I will reserve the right to doubt his ability to recognize an incarnate God.
People can’t even reliably discern between authentic and fake gurus, if evidence is to be believed. It’s quite a subjective thing. People expect some help in form of a manifestation of some superpower which will remove all doubt, but, again, that’s not how this works. Even if someone manifests some spiritual power, it doesn’t mean he doesn’t also fondle little boys’ genitals in the back room. Also, people have rules for detecting a disciplined, diligent monk by listing behavioural traits, and expect a spiritual master to be an obviously stronger signal on the radar, and from this they expect God to be recognizable beyond a shadow of doubt. However, that’s not how things work.
Hindus are much more experienced than Westerners in this regard. They know that Gods, gurus and sadhus can be incredibly hard to detect, and if you fail you can get seriously burned. There is ample scriptural and anecdotal evidence of people being rude to saints and gods because they mistook them for some ordinary person, and were punished. As a result, they prefer treating a fake sadhu with respect, because treating a genuine sadhu with disrespect can be karmically very expensive. It’s much safer to treat everybody as if they are God or a saintly person, than to risk treating God or a saint as an impostor, or with disrespect. It’s essentially a variation of the Pascal matrix: something can be God or not, and I can either identify it correctly or not. The only solution in which I really get burned is if something is God and I treat it poorly.
So, again, incarnate God has the “incarnate” part in common with every other human. This is a given. He can manifest some properties and abilities that are out of the ordinary, but those are not in the order of magnitude that would immediately remove all doubt. In fact, I would say that the only thing I would expect an incarnate God to do better than an incarnation of an average soul-type, if there is such a thing at all, is the desire to seek God and the ability to detect Him when present. Yes, this means it takes one to know one, and that’s why an incarnation of God is positively identified by saints and negatively identified by the worst people living at the time. He has all the incarnate angels as followers and all the incarnate demons as enemies. The Bhagavata-purana is all about this. This fact is reiterated again and again, and that is something the Hindus are quite familiar with, at least in theory.
Also, people expect an incarnation of God to manifest super-saintly behaviour, and I see no reason why that would be so, or, at least, why true holiness of an incarnate God’s behaviour would be recognized as such. People are trained to recognize holiness in its apollonic form – for instance, practicing a religion and praying devoutly, but is that really what you would do if you were God, trapped in flesh, separated from your true form, unable to think clearly, with memory wiped, unable to use your powers, surrounded by, well, mostly demons? If you were God born as a human, and if you saw religious people, would they look like someone who practices something that leads to what you instinctively perceive as your true being, your “home”? No, they would look deluded and empty and their actions obviously worthless. You would appear to be more crazy than normal, in your wild attempts to figure things out, to break free, to go back to somewhere you forgot but know that it exists. You wouldn’t know what it is, just that it is great, awesome, that it is in the direction of knowledge and blissful power and peace and knowing your true nature and being safe and invulnerable and separate from all evil, ignorance and filth. You would perhaps try sex, drugs, alcohol, music, books, movies, calm peace of the sunset, breath control, hypnosis, study of science, fast driving… you get the picture, you would try all sorts of things that feel extreme, trying out things because it is not obvious what will bring you closer to that feeling that you can’t explain, but which is everything.
You would not look like a stereotypical saint, or a spiritual person, let alone God. Most likely, people would think you’re a weird person that experiments with all sorts of weird things, doesn’t mix nicely with normal people and is best left alone. The very idea that someone like that is a super-soul (a much more correct and appropriate term than God) is something that would never cross people’s minds, because they would expect a super-soul to be someone super-successful in the ordinary things. However, a super-soul is not likely to be interested in the ordinary things. One like that is likely to be in super amounts of pain from simply existing in this limited form, because the most “super” part of his existence is the ability to feel the loss of what he or she can no longer access, but can feel that it existed. It’s a clear case of missing what you appear never to have had, and this feeling of loss is something so strong and painful, it will motivate one to try with incredible persistency to get it back, or, if it doesn’t seem possible, it will cause such devastating feeling of loss, one would be inclined to drown it in quite extreme and desperate ways. So, yes, if an incarnate God finds the Ariadne’s thread that seems to lead him or her back home, you will occasionally get a great saint, an expert in meditation and sophisticated spiritual practices. However, if one doesn’t manage to find it, you will get a struggling person in incredible spiritual pain, lashing out, acting strangely, and being everything but what you would expect.
I find it funny when some people think they “recognized me”. I would like to show them what I looked like before I got my shit together and practiced very advanced forms of yogi energetics for years. They would most likely look at me with pity or scorn, and I am absolutely certain they would not recognize a tulku in the process of self-organization. What they “recognized” is that I used my spiritual power to focus their mind, open their vertical, enhance the “Kundalini” flow through their system, essentially smash their body and soul together by sheer force, and then create a way for their awakened form towards what I myself strive towards. Essentially, I spiritually fist-fucked them, and the fact that they “recognized me” isn’t some great feat. Recognizing me doesn’t make you a saint, it’s more like not-recognizing me makes you a complete fuckwit, because I used such overpowering force you can’t fucking miss that. Even Romana didn’t recognize worth a damn. She mailed me about some stupid bullshit, I recognized that she might be “something”, and when we met I “recognized” her as the mother of my children, and she told me she doesn’t hug strangers. Sure, half an hour later when I had pushed her energetic system to its maximum limits it turned out that it responds to the highest energies that I could invoke, which is quite rare since most people usually have minimal response and only on the anahata spectrum, then she “recognized” me, but what did she really do? “Oh, this guy here has immense spiritual superpowers, he must be God or something”? No shit, Einstein. Had you figured that out half an hour before, that is something I would have found impressive, but now, it only means you’re not a complete fucking retard.
I’ll tell you what’s impressive. Biljana went into a library, and in a pile of returned books she found one of mine, and she saw my picture on the back. It hit her so hard, her whole life reassembled around it. She found a contact e-mail address and messaged me with something inconspicuous, and when I read it she was in my fucking mind, like, her presence was in my inner space. I immediately invited her to come and meet me, and you know what I did then? Nothing. I didn’t ram her system with force, not then, not ever, because I felt it was not only unnecessary but actually counterproductive. She did every single fucking thing herself, her system completely awoke and reassembled just because I was there and she felt me, not the energies I directed, but me. She was the only person besides me who could feel on the soul level, not on the energy level. And you know what my “students” perceived of her, and of what just happened? Two things: “jack” and “shit”. I felt they wouldn’t even believe me if I told them, because there wasn’t an energy exchange, which is the only thing they could feel. To them, she was just a very beautiful young girl who was freaked out to the point of not being able to talk. To me, she was my true wife, the one person in the world who could recognize me with my power off, because she actually saw me.
So yeah, I went to India and saw Sai Baba who was supposedly an avatar, and whom Sanat Kumar even presented to me as my guru, using super sophisticated trickery, and I saw everything he is and does, and he wasn’t able to detect me when I shut my power down. I once went to an “Esoterica Croatica” New Age meeting of all kinds of charlatans, and not only that nobody detected me when I had my power down, I actually did an experiment and turned it to “full on” at one moment, and only a single person saw it, who obviously was the only true psychic there and not a charlatan. Her name was Neda Bolić, I think. She looked right at me, but I intentionally avoided eye contact and since I looked very understated, she thought she must have made a mistake. I saw Makaja in person once and I put so much power through the entire room that my two students there started doing kriyas to release the overload, and he detected nought but my two friends, Jack and Shit. I saw a “prophet” Vera Čudina with one of my students, I did a passive scan of everything in her context, and she didn’t figure out who she was dealing with. So yes, some people “recognize me” when I fry their brains with spiritual power, and some don’t even have the spiritual receptors for that; no response for spiritual power whatsoever, and some of those people pose as gurus and psychics. Only one person was able to have a complete spiritual experience with me in the passive mode, and later on all those “students” who “recognized me” and had “deep spiritual connection” with me basically conspired to ruin her life and keep her away from me, which was one of the worst fucking nightmares I endured in this less-than-fluffy life, and was karmically devastating for those involved.
So yeah, will people recognize God. It’s been tried, and the results are in.
“You would not look like a stereotypical saint, or a spiritual person, let alone God. Most likely, people would think you’re a weird person that experiments with all sorts of weird things, doesn’t mix nicely with normal people and is best left alone.”
That sums it up perfectly 🙂 Great article infused with Shakti. God that mixes up nicely with normal people can only be idiot, and even Satan refused that,so..
Oh boy, if people were to think only that what u said, the life of many advanced Yogis, esp in this modern End times age, would be much easier, with less noise in their Mind.
I mean, isn’t it obvious that some Being who is walking Death, who has forgotten so many advanced spiritual and freaky stuff that 99% of practitioners, let alone regular humans wont ever experience, who is continuoslly in some super no-mind-no-time-no-thoughts anomaly, who is using Force to remain in the body, who is using his body to balance and “eat” Global Choronzon vampiric inorganic bio plasmic echo full of uncontrolled human shit, who dematerialized his body, etc etc..; isn’t it obvious that such a Being is weird and experimenting with weird.stuff, but yet, humans cant leave that kind of Being in Peace.
They can only leave him in “peace”. Small controlled peace handed over by modern state prisons with walking spiritual deadmen as dumb citizens.
And that brings us to:
“Hindus are much more experienced than Westerners in this regard. They know that Gods, gurus and sadhus can be incredibly hard to detect, and if you fail you can get seriously burned . There is ample scriptural and anecdotal evidence of people being rude to saints and gods because they mistook them for some ordinary person, and were punished.”
Same as recognizing part, One sees One, similar is for punishing.There is no excuse. If incarnated God gets really, really angry because of level of idiots around trying to “normalize” him or how things and drama of his life played out, his Shakti will just send thousandes of people to Hell.Plus, Gods can fk each other for same weird reasons and then we got the idea of Lila, in which weirdness gets exponential to the level of regional or global energetic anomalies.
Anything beside today’s normal is good enough to be used as some kind of basic spiritual practice. Today, normal is so fake,so immensly fake, that ammount of completelly deluded sects, gurus, antigurus, practitioners, humans if finally reaching a level where it will create some kind of irreversible switch off in collective consciousness, some kind of new and unseen anomaly, whihc will be a preparation for some next Global changes that we are experienceing, and yet it will be a normal effect of Sanat’s retirement, but obviously he wants to take many “humans” with him.
That’s why this article is good. You have directly experienced the pain, the shock, the continuos unbeleiving that people are watching u,and yet they are seeing something else.
I was thinking to “bombard u” nicely,softly, with some questions, if you dont mind, maybe in some kind of disscussion, or If I inspire you to write similar article. I would really appreciate if I could download some stuff that you have access to, regarding few things that are happening now.
We never met physically, yet my whole journery back in 2011, when I crossed Abyss, opened heart and bumped into Mr Choronzon, collective consciouness mumbo jumbo and horror astral AI that is keeping everyone bellow Causal etc etc, so I was really inspired by your explanations and many stuff, yet I wrote like hundreds of similar or expanded stuff on many places, besides everything rest that me as freak was doing. Not to mention using my body for destroying Choronzon as much as I can, to the level that Babaji couldnt beleive what I was doing with such intense focus of suffering, In the end, He even said: ” Good God, it is good that I didnt learn you the secret of opposite OM.You will kill so many people around you ” 🙂
Yeah, I am Kriya maniac, connected to both Mahavatar Babaji and Haidhakan, so connected that I wonder why I need to remain on this stupid earth anymore, especially when I know that I was already here 1000 years ago and started some top advanced stuff on Tiber. Yeah, I dematerialzed body few times.Went optically invisible over national borders of Croatia and Bosnia, no cars,lot of guards,nobody saw me,2km/h speed, book of Milarepa in hands…
How my body is capable to breath,I dont know. How my heart beats, dunno either. I guess I am still young and have enough energy in balls, so my whole focus is on Shakti explosions from balls to Crown, without any mercy to humans. I love them, but punishmen awaits them.
Awaits them as well as what they did to you. Humans globally have soooo much punishment coming to them, that I cant beleive the level of ignorance regarding that. But the prophecies are right. From Puranas, Revelations,budhism,Haidhakan prophecies about end times and revolutions etc.
Punishers are coming now, right? That could be a first question. Gods that will do the punishment Lila.We are just preparing the ground for them. They will be some nasty motherfuckers I guess 🙂
Your Woman recognized you, what more you want,that is almost a perfect achievement in this Fallout world. That is a WEIRD experiment ! 😉
Funnily enough, I was also having some kind of a mystical revelation with Sai Baba as a main protagonist. And let me tell you, that thing was not fake at all, although I’m not so sure Sai Baba himself had anything to do with it. It’s a complex mashup of Indian religious figures that are all but clear to me. Additionally, I never had anything to do with him, nor did I considered myself to be his apprentice, so this reveal makes it even more puzzling.
BTW, it’s most likely Nada Bolić, not Neda.
Many people had those, and it is my opinion that Sanat Kumar modified something in the global field in order to direct people towards him. This kind of fraudulent behavior is very much like him, although I can’t really verify my suspicions.
Thanks 🙂