The Russians identified a cure:
https://www.rt.com/russia/484364-russian-drug-treatment-covid19/
Russian specialists believe they have come up with an effective way to treat Covid-19 infection using an anti-malarial drug. They say it not only curbs the symptoms of the disease, but also prevents the virus from replicating.
While experts around the world have been trying to create a specific vaccine against the virus behind the global pandemic, there have also been attempts to repurpose existing medicines, to help the scores of patients that badly need treatment. Russian pharmacists on Saturday said they have found one such drug – Mefloquine – to be effective in stopping Covid-19.
The drug, which has been around since the 1970s, blocks the degenerative effect Covid-19 has on cells and doesn’t allow the virus to replicate further, the Russian Federal Medical-Biological Agency (FMBA) said in a statement. They added that Mefloquine’s immuno-suppressive effect prevents the inflammatory response caused by the disease.
The Russian medics have been working on “an effective and safe scheme to prevent coronavirus infection on the basis of mefloquine, which not only would overcome the peak of incidence but would also effectively control it in the future,” the FMBA said.
In the meantime, the Western pharmaceutical companies are looking for something they can keep selling you for decades, for a profit, because the concept of a cure is anathema to them; cures are not profitable, addictions are.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/okanal.oslobodjenje.ba/izdvojeno/na-trzistu-bih-za-tri-dana-lijek-malcovir-u-potpunosti-unistava-covid-19/19801/amp/
https://okanal.oslobodjenje.ba/izdvojeno/na-trzistu-bih-za-tri-dana-lijek-malcovir-u-potpunosti-unistava-covid-19/19801/amp/
https://en.as.com/en/2020/04/04/other_sports/1585963017_478782.amp.html
What’s interesting that the antimalarials and this have something in common: they are both anti-parasitic drugs.
That’s correct. I’ve noticed that myself, although I’m not sure what it means.
One of the explanations I’ve heard is that these types of drugs, due to their alkaline nature, raise the internal pH, and this creates the environment inside which the virus is unable to procreate. But this is probably an oversimplification.
I’m glad you guys are ok, there is an idea that sending zinc to the replication sites the virus uses can work the same way as Hydroxychloroquine. To do that one needs an Ionophore such as Quercetin. The theory is that taking zinc + Quercetin could do that same job as the antimalarial drugs. I don’t know if this is true since there has been no clinical trials yet but its maybe something to look into. We can’t get antimalarial drugs over the counter in Australia:
https://nutritionalpharmacology.wordpress.com/2020/03/21/combating-covid-19-with-zinc-and-quercetin/
Knock on wood, but it appears everybody is on the mend, and Biljana never even developed symptoms worth mentioning. My lungs will probably take a few more weeks to heal completely but lung capacity is more-less restored even now, which is a miracle in itself considering how I had the lung capacity of a hamster at the peak of illness.
Thats good to hear 🙂
Behind this corona virus thing, in America there is a heavy amount of propaganda from all sides that China is to blame. China China China… Even independent sources are aligned with this narrative, which makes me think are they really independent, is someone coordinating this, or is it just a collective mental thing to align like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3O61CYeYLA
I know a thing or two about forming public opinions, it’s not that hard, and this virus looks like a too good opportunity for american hawks to miss, while at the same time we are suddenly finding ourselves as populations locked inside our towns and cities. You cannot leave…this is unprecedented even for war times and this virus is not smallpox, what are they preparing us for?
They’re all swimming in the current of Americanism. Install Channel Blocker browser extension. I have almost all of these “independents” blocked for quite a while already. Life is better that way.
Trump was completely right when he said that he could kill someone on the street in broad daylight and people would still vote for him. He did exactly that when he bombed Syria on false pretenses. He also stole (the oil, Venezuelan money etc). And he is lying daily, even contradicting his own statements from few days or few months ago. How do “independents” react to all this? They are existentially invested in defending and promoting Americanism. I don’t buy that the lies they disseminate are caused by ignorance. People who are misinformed but interested in the truth react completely differently. Americanists act like Muslims – lying, stealing and killing is fine if done for Islam (America). America is the opposite of Christian values and yet is seen as a “city upon a hill”, while countries that actually act in a Christian manner are demonized. Incredible. Even the entire democratic process is as un-Christian as it can be (partly) because it’s based on voting for lesser evil.
Here’s a different angle on coronavirus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj-rxmTSj_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
The theory that the series of pneumonia deaths attributed to “vaping”, are actually caused by this virus, that it originates from America and was brought to China, sounds compelling. I also have an impression that it’s something that Americans created, and I mean created, it looks like a military thing, a biological weapon that is designed to cause panic and overreactions, because that’s what they design some weapons for; when everybody gets it, and you never know who will develop a deadly version of symptoms, panic is a logical consequence, and panicked humans are easily herded and controlled. I can’t know for sure whether any of it is actually true, but the combination of economic crisis, virus and the quarantine measures that look incredibly scripted and coordinated, in a civilization that normally can’t agree on the color of shit, it all looks incredibly suspicious.
I’m actually surprised by the amount of information that surfaced past few months. We still don’t know for sure what happened but at this point the burden of proof is on those who claim this isn’t an American bioweapon. I don’t even think this was accidental leak from Fort Detrick. They probably “leaked” it intentionally for plausible deniability, covered it up, and then intentionally spread in Wuhan. That way they can say ‘whoops, accidents happen’, and minimize the chance of retaliation.
And they’ll repeat “chinese virus” and “kung flu” until they turn blue in the face.
🙂 Trump got hurt because Chinese foreign ministry spokesman said that US army might have brought the virus to Wuhan and asked the US for explanation/information. Of course, Trump would have none of it and typically went on offensive. How dare anyone insinuate the US army is capable of such insidious acts 🙂 But he’s preaching to the choir. No one else cares. Meanwhile, China and Russia are doing quite a considerable amount of PR.
There’s a certain entertaining aspect observing the US at the moment. It’s like watching the movie Airplane. They started with “everything is under control”, then “it’s just a flesh wound”, followed by ‘situation is FUBAR but it’s all China’s fault’. Now that people are massively dying there one has to wonder what their creative PR department has next in store.
Well, wasn’t it more or less pretty well known fact for weeks now that an antimalarial drug in combination with particular antibiotics help to significantly reduce symptoms of this viral infection.
Most of the Croatian experts dismissed news as “questionable”, “unproven” and so forth…
Well, I dismiss most Croatian experts as questionable and unqualified, so that’s fine. 🙂 The problem with this drug is that it has nasty side-effects, so I wouldn’t really give it to people who have mild symptoms.
I guess there are some dissonant voices on the topic, like dr. Sladoljev, but as soon as they open their mouth medias start ripping them apart as “conspiracy theorists”.
Take a look at this (not the whole show, just the interview-segment from 18:00min):
https://youtu.be/us-KSAO8wrM
It seems that it’s possible to order these “Russian anti-corona pills” on various places all over the web…
https://www.theindependentpharmacy.co.uk/malaria-prevention/lariam-250mg-tablets
The only way for that to actually work is if the healthcare system adopts it and starts distributing it the way they normally do antibiotics. When someone actually needs it it’s too late to order from Amazon, you’re dead by the time it arrives.
BTW, I was talking to the girls yesterday and they scratched their heads trying to figure out how toilet paper panic buying makes for a valid prepping strategy. My answer: they shat themselves with fear and toilet paper looked like the perfect solution to their immediate problem. 🙂
Well, I don’t exactly expect to save a nation by online ordering a pack of pills, I just brought that up there as an idea if somebody wants to have it in his personal little stash of medicines, it’s possible. *If* you get stuck in a specific situation with a specific disease, and *if* you have a doctor to consult with on the dosage, and *if* there’s let’s say shortage of medical supplies in your local pharmacy… it could be useful, I guess.
Now, that’s a lot of “ifs”, but then again, it costs only 3€, you don’t even have to think too hard about it.
Actually, a friend have been asking me the same thing lately – what’s up with all that
toilet paper craze. I didn’t really had any explanation myself. It’s a good thing that someone finally came up with a proper scientific assessment of the phenomenon. 🙂
The problem with this is that it doesn’t work outside UK. I am actually interested in finding a place where you can actually place an order internationally and have it delivered here.
Hmm, I didn’t know that it doesn’t work outside of UK, didn’t make any orders myself since I’m not that much interested (and not it the right age group to suffer any real danger from the virus).
I guess you have a few more options left. First one is to try some of those postal proxy services. I don’t know if they exist in the UK or not, but there are many in the US, and I’ve used some of them (shipito.com for example).
Second solution is to try deepweb. I don’t know exact locations, however, it’s pretty popular among electrical and software engineering students to use various amphetamines, cocaine, microdosed LSD, antidepressants, anxiolytics and sleeping pills before major exams. Adderall is especially popular among “smart drugs”. They’ve told me they order these chemicals from deepweb without having any problems with delivery to Zagreb so far. That was a few years ago though, I’ve heard they open all packages that go through Branimirova now (if it comes from the US).
Third solution is if you have friends in the medical field. In this case, you can get fake diagnose based on which you can get all the medicines you need for a personal stash.
I’ve actually known a guy who was one of those students that were constantly taking various mixes of chemicals just to try to push his IQ that 1% further. Haven’t heard him in years, but I’ll shoot him an email to check where’s the best place to order these kind of things.
And if everything else fails, I have some colleagues who moved to London to work for Apple, so I guess I can ask them to take delivery and then send it down to you, if they’re still up there.
I have a friend in London, she already tried calling the pharmacies, all the anti-malaria drugs are sold out everywhere.
Which is quite logical when you think of it: the production level of this thing is designed for very low normal demand, and in order to meet the demand based on mere rumors of it being effective against COVID19 you’d have to manufacture metric tons of it and have an incredible distribution network. I think only Russia and China can do that quickly enough.
What about our rural pharmacies? If it’s sold locally, I just might be able to get you something. I’ll check tomorrow.
Nah, let it go. No sense in pushing it.
Availability aside, I’m not sure I understand what’s the use of antimalarials for you now when you already made it through?
Božo has symptoms of damage on the lungs and we’re not sure whether the virus did its thing already and the immune system is done with it, or the worst is yet to come. I wanted to have the antimalarials as an option in case of the latter. Božo thinks the virus is no longer the problem. I don’t know enough to be sure.
I did my little tour de malaria and the results are… interesting. Initial assumption was that rural pharmacies are probably better choice because people are somewhat less informed and there is a lag in everything, including panic, so their reserves are not as much depleted.
First one I’ve asked about antimalarials was laughing her ass off, as if just the idea of having that kind of medicine is for some reason completely absurd. “Honey, last time I had antimalarials on my shelf was in 1992, and we were right in the warzone.”
Several more pharmacies after that and no one except her was in the mood for a laugh, although they were all just as equally consternated by the question. One younger guy was in for a chat though. “Hey, you’re here because of corona, right? I knew it. Yeah, I was reading these rumors too…”
Last one was the most informative of all. She told me they actually did had antimalarials not so long ago, and they’ve had plenty of it (and by plenty, I mean two packs in a drawer). She proceeded to explain that antimalarials, despite the name, are in fact never used against actual malaria, because nobody ever gets that. Instead, they are mostly used to do clever immuno-suppresive tricks to the organism of those who suffer from certain types of immunological disorders (or, at least, that’s what I was able to understand).
In fact, it’s quite possible that these are the same people who rushed to buy last supplies of these medicines, because their life depends on it. It was all probably gone even before rumors started circulating, but that’s just my theory.
Being a stubborn mule as I always was, I still wanted to try something. I’ve made a private call to chief nurse in the biggest public hospital in the region and asked her to take some of those pills directly from the system. She told me they’re desperate to get even some rubber gloves, let alone highly exotic chemical like that. So yeah…
What I don’t get is how both of you ended up with severe symptoms and both are relatively young and don’t have any previous serious medical condition on the lungs (or, at least, I assume you don’t).
I thought that these horror stories are reserved for those in their 70s.
It’s not quite like that.
The kids and Romana actually had it much worse than Božo; especially Šankar, he coughed for almost a month following the disease, the kids both had symptoms that looked like a nasty flu, but only hitting the lungs. Božo had nothing even close; just chest pains and slightly reduced lung capacity, exhaustion etc., but I decided to be proactive and try to obtain the cure in case he develops anything close to my symptoms, because I *really* got hammered.