Autor: Danijel Turina
Datum: 2005-03-09 11:30:35
Grupe: hr.soc.religija
Tema: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?budu=E6nost?=
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Message-ID: jzkkdiyhc8w0$.1noefxdg7xd9j$.dlg@40tude.net

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:39:21 +0100, Ratko Jakopec wrote:

> Jedino je Galileo, pa recimo blizu znanstveniku u danasnjem smislu, ali ni
> on nije imao nikakve dokaze da Zemlja kruzi oko Sunca, naime glavni
> prigovor inkvizitora je bio da on za tu tvrdnju nema dokaza, a to je bila
> istina.

A osim toga u kucni pritvor ga nisu stavili zbog znanosti, nego zbog
bahatosti i arogancije, kojom je uspio papu Urbana VIII od prijatelja,
sponzora i stovatelja, koji je cak napisao odu Galileju, pretvoriti u
ogorcenog neprijatelja. Dakle stvar nema veze sa znanoscu, Galileo je
zapravo bio tasti egomanijak koji je suzbijao znanost, a blize pravom
znanstveniku u ono doba je bio Kepler, kojeg je recimo Galileo ostro
kritizirao zbog "smijesne tvrdnje" da plima i oseka imaju veze s Mjesecom i
koji je u razvoju astronomije daleko uznapredovao u odnosu na Galileja,
ciji je astronomski sustav bio grubo pogresan. Dosta ljudi smatra da je
Galileo zapravo unazadio znanost, zbog svojih veza, utjecaja i tastine u
kombinaciji, i nevjerojatna je ironija da se njega stuje kao neku vrstu
sveca zastitnika znanosti. Pa taj je cak i nacrt teleskopa ukrao drugome
(Hansu Lippersheyu), a kamo li dalje. Bertold Brecht je cak napisao farsu
po imenu Galileo, u kojoj se sprda s njega. 

Ima dobar tekst na http://contra-mundum.org/schirrmacher/galileo.pdf

Par citata:
9. In Galileo's time science no longer had to decide between Ptolemy and
Copernicus. Ptomely was no longer a real option. Rather it is important,
´that the choice now lay between Copernicus and BraheĄ,88 because everybody
believed that the earth was moving around the sun. The question was,
whether or not the earth was moving itself or was staying in the center of
the universe.
10. Galileo fought very stubbornly not only for the Copernican system but
also for several hypotheses, which, compared to other scientists of his
time, were out of date and a relapse into the old system. This thesis was
already contained in Theses 5, 8 and 9. Galileo defended the ´epizycloidsĄ
of Copernicus, even though Kepler already had presented a much better
theory. His already mentioned erroneous explanation of the tides was used
as his major proof for the Copernican system, even though it was untenable
and Kepler had discovered the real cause of the tides in the power of
attraction of the moon. In 1618, Galileo explained some visible comets in a
fiery work as reflexions of light, so that nobody believed the Jesuit
astronomer Grassi, who realized that the comets are flying bodies.
The arguments for this thesis can be found under Theses 3 and 16. We should
not forget, that in 1615 a first trial against Galileo before the Court of
Inquisition was decided in favor of Galileo, because of a benevolent expert
evidence of the leading Jesuit astronomers.
12. Galileo was the victim of the politics of Pope Urban VIII, who had been
very much in favor of him earlier. This was due to the political situation
as well as to Galileo's personal attacks on the Pope, never to religious
reasons. The Pope had initiated the proceedings, while the Court of
Inquisition calmed the whole matter down instead of stirring up the flames.

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