Autor: Danijel Turina Datum: 2005-03-09 11:30:35 Grupe: hr.soc.religija Tema: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?budu=E6nost?= Linija: 54 Message-ID: jzkkdiyhc8w0$.1noefxdg7xd9j$.dlg@40tude.net |
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:39:21 +0100, Ratko Jakopec wrote: > Jedino je Galileo, pa recimo blizu znanstveniku u danasnjem smislu, ali ni > on nije imao nikakve dokaze da Zemlja kruzi oko Sunca, naime glavni > prigovor inkvizitora je bio da on za tu tvrdnju nema dokaza, a to je bila > istina. A osim toga u kucni pritvor ga nisu stavili zbog znanosti, nego zbog bahatosti i arogancije, kojom je uspio papu Urbana VIII od prijatelja, sponzora i stovatelja, koji je cak napisao odu Galileju, pretvoriti u ogorcenog neprijatelja. Dakle stvar nema veze sa znanoscu, Galileo je zapravo bio tasti egomanijak koji je suzbijao znanost, a blize pravom znanstveniku u ono doba je bio Kepler, kojeg je recimo Galileo ostro kritizirao zbog "smijesne tvrdnje" da plima i oseka imaju veze s Mjesecom i koji je u razvoju astronomije daleko uznapredovao u odnosu na Galileja, ciji je astronomski sustav bio grubo pogresan. Dosta ljudi smatra da je Galileo zapravo unazadio znanost, zbog svojih veza, utjecaja i tastine u kombinaciji, i nevjerojatna je ironija da se njega stuje kao neku vrstu sveca zastitnika znanosti. Pa taj je cak i nacrt teleskopa ukrao drugome (Hansu Lippersheyu), a kamo li dalje. Bertold Brecht je cak napisao farsu po imenu Galileo, u kojoj se sprda s njega. Ima dobar tekst na http://contra-mundum.org/schirrmacher/galileo.pdf Par citata: 9. In Galileo's time science no longer had to decide between Ptolemy and Copernicus. Ptomely was no longer a real option. Rather it is important, ´that the choice now lay between Copernicus and BraheĄ,88 because everybody believed that the earth was moving around the sun. The question was, whether or not the earth was moving itself or was staying in the center of the universe. 10. Galileo fought very stubbornly not only for the Copernican system but also for several hypotheses, which, compared to other scientists of his time, were out of date and a relapse into the old system. This thesis was already contained in Theses 5, 8 and 9. Galileo defended the ´epizycloidsĄ of Copernicus, even though Kepler already had presented a much better theory. His already mentioned erroneous explanation of the tides was used as his major proof for the Copernican system, even though it was untenable and Kepler had discovered the real cause of the tides in the power of attraction of the moon. In 1618, Galileo explained some visible comets in a fiery work as reflexions of light, so that nobody believed the Jesuit astronomer Grassi, who realized that the comets are flying bodies. The arguments for this thesis can be found under Theses 3 and 16. We should not forget, that in 1615 a first trial against Galileo before the Court of Inquisition was decided in favor of Galileo, because of a benevolent expert evidence of the leading Jesuit astronomers. 12. Galileo was the victim of the politics of Pope Urban VIII, who had been very much in favor of him earlier. This was due to the political situation as well as to Galileo's personal attacks on the Pope, never to religious reasons. The Pope had initiated the proceedings, while the Court of Inquisition calmed the whole matter down instead of stirring up the flames. -- Homepage: http://www.danijel.org/ Business: http://www.ouroboros.hr/ |