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On 06/08/2011 10:53 PM, Ivica Lozic wrote:
> 
> Da se toj bandi da vlast, imao bi konc-logore, uz ostale
> neistomišljenike tamo bi bili i homoseksualci.

Pa, mi zapravo znamo što bi se desilo da oni imaju vlast, odnosno da su
joj bliski:

http://www.remnantofgod.org/NaziRCC/NaziPriestsSaluteHitler.jpg

Ali to su zagovornici tradicionalnih obiteljskih vrijednosti koji čuvaju
vjerni narod od negativnih pojava, a ne "problematične nakazne pojave"
kao recimo Martina Navratilova, Jodie Foster ili Elton John.

Ne znam je li to publici poznato, ali crkvena retorika o tradicionalnim
vrijednostima nije kršćanska, zato što Isus nije previše držao do
tradicionalnih vrijednosti, ali je zato potpuno nacistička. To je
retorika Hitlerove nacionalsocijalističke partije. Svojedobno sam u
školskom udžbeniku pročitao neki tekst u kojem se apelira na
tradicionalne obiteljske vrijednosti i uloge spolova, koji zvuči potpuno
isto kao ono što govori katolička crkva danas. Autor teksta? Apologet
nacizma iz predratne Njemačke. Zanimljivo je da se o tome šuti, i da se
u govoru o Hitleru i nacizmu uglavnom spominju stvari po kojima se on
*razlikuje* od današnjih main stream svjetonazora, ali takva slika je
puka karikatura.

http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/paul_23_4.html

"The Nazis championed traditional family values: their ideology was
conservative, bourgeois, patriarchal, and strongly antifeminist.
Discipline and conformity were emphasized, marriage promoted, abortion
and homosexuality despised.

Traditionalism also dominated Nazi philosophy, such as it was. Though
science and technology were lauded, the overall thrust opposed the
Enlightenment, modernism, intellectualism, and rationality. It is hard
to imagine how a movement with that agenda could have been friendly
toward atheism, and the Nazis were not. Volkism was inherently hostile
toward atheism: freethinkers clashed frequently with Nazis in the late
1920s and early 1930s. On taking power, Hitler banned freethought
organizations and launched an "anti-godless" movement. In a 1933 speech
he declared: "We have . . . undertaken the fight against the atheistic
movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we
have stamped it out." This forthright hostility was far more
straightforward than the Nazis' complex, often contradictory stance
toward traditional Christian faith."

Ne znam za tebe, ali da ne znam da se govori o nacistima, mislio bih da
je to opis prakse i nauka katoličke crkve danas.

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