Autor: Danijel Turina
Datum: 2010-03-11 21:06:15
Grupe: hr.soc.religija
Tema: Re: O patoloskim lazljivcima
Linija: 157
Message-ID: hnbifo$n3l$14@ss408.t-com.hr

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Danijel Turina wrote:
> Još samo Pricina slika fali u člancima:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica 
> http://healthmad.com/mental-health/how-to-spot-a-pathological-liar/
> 
> How to Spot a Pathological Liar
> 
> -They change their story all the time -They will exaggerate and lie
> about everything, the smallest and easiest things to tell the truth
> about and the big serious things -What ever you do, they can do it
> better. -They often don't value the truth, and can often live in
> their own type of reality. -They will act defensively when questioned
> or challenged, they see their lies as not hurting anyone -They lie
> for sympathy or to seem better -They usually never own up to the lies
>  -They contradict what they say, they lose track of the many lies
> told -They lie because they are insecure

Ima još:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_tell_if_someone_is_a_pathological_liar

> Identifying a Pathological Liar
> 
> Pathological liars, or "mythomaniacs," may be suffering from
> histrionic personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder.
> The following comments basically reflect a pathological liar who has
> the characteristics of histrionic personality disorder. Some
> characteristics 1. Exaggerates things that are ridiculous. 2.
> One-upping. Whatever you do, this person can do it better. You will
> never top them in their own mind, because they have a concerted need
> to be better than everyone else. This also applies to being right. If
> you try to confront an individual like this, no matter how lovingly
> and well-intentioned you might be - this will probably not be
> effective. It's threatening their fantasy of themselves, so they
> would rather argue with you and bring out the sharp knives than admit
> that there's anything wrong with them. 3. They "construct" a reality
> around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they
> don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they
> are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly
> things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may
> eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're
> making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the
> conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs). 4. Because these
> people don't value honesty, a lot of times they will not value
> loyalty. So watch what you tell them. They will not only tell others,
> but they will embellish to make you look worse. Their loyalty is
> fleeting, and because they are insecure people, they will find solace
> in confiding to whomever is in their favor at the moment. 5. They may
> be somewhat of a hypochondriac. This can come in especially useful
> when caught in a lie, for example, they can claim that they have been
> sick, or that there's some mysteriously "illness" that has them all
> stressed out. It's another excuse tool for their behavior. 6.
> Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very
> clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so
> many lies (who would be?). Another WikiAnswers Contributor adds: They
> lie about even the smallest things. For example, saying "I brushed my
> teeth today," when they didn't. They add exaggerations to every
> sentence. They change their story all the time. They act very
> defensively when you question their statements. They believe what
> they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn't.
> 
> An alternate 'checklist': Lies when it is very easy to tell the
> truth. Lies to get sympathy, to look better, to save their butt, etc.
>  Fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes
> anything they ever say. May have a personality disorder. Extremely
> manipulative. Has been caught in lies repeatedly. Never fesses up to
> the lies. Is a legend in their own mind.
> 
> More opinions and input from WikiAnswers contributors: I have found a
> few differences in pathological liar and a "slime ball" liar.
> Pathological liars cannot tell that they are lying; they actually
> believe the lie as soon as it comes out of their mouth. They lie
> about unimportant things that don't really matter to anyone. This can
> be caused by mental defect but isn't always. Slime-ball liars lie
> about things that make them look better or embellish to get
> attention. They also lie to keep their butts out of trouble and to
> get what they want. Here are things to ask yourself: How could this
> many things happen to one person? Would believe these stories if
> someone else told you? Think back to the beginning: you had red flags
> and alarms going off in you head. Learn to trust your instincts. It
> is very hard to tell when one is a pathological liar. Some people
> just are liars and lie to lie because they can and they don't care
> about getting caught and aware that you know they have lied. These
> people care not about lying, it's no big deal. It's like "ok, so
> what? I lied". The pathological liar on the other hand, IS aware that
> they are lying BUT will go to extremes to make you believe that they
> are truthful. They appear to believe their own lies BUT in truth,
> they know their lies are just that, lies. But because their efforts
> are constantly backing up their lies, it appears to us that they
> actually believe their lies, when we eventually do find out about
> them and then we tend to feel sorry for these people. Then they have
> an excuse, "I am sick, I don't know why I lie, I believed what I was
> saying etc." The only truth was the fact that they don't know why
> they lie. Other than that it's crap. It is true that most of them
> have an extremely low sense of self worth and are continuously trying
> to make themselves feel better about THEMSELVES and this is one
> reason they lie. It is about them but the lies are not always set up
> with the purpose to hurt some one else; it's that these people feel
> so low about themselves they need to create ANYTHING different from
> the ugly reality they feel about themselves so they lie about even
> the most tiniest little thing. The people closest to them get sucked
> into these lies which sometimes start as something very trivial and
> then turn into something that can turn everyone involved worlds
> upside down and inside out. Unmasking the pathological liar is an
> easier task when the pathological liar is no more than a casual
> acquaintence to the "un-masker." Close relationships provide
> camouflage for the pathological liar, and intimacy provides a
> heavily-fortressed breeding ground. Other indicators: 1) Rage attacks
> after they realize you're questioning their lies. 2) Distraction
> techniques, e.g. hanging up the phone when you catch them in lie,
> playing word games, or even just running out of the room. After using
> the distraction technique, or rage attack, or sometimes both, they
> will pretend that nothing ever happened. They re-write history, so it
> never did happen in their minds. Normal people do it too, but these
> people take it to the extreme. From "Go Ask Alice": Lies are
> unplanned and impulsive. Behavior is repeated over a long period of
> time. Lies don't seem to exist for any external reason. Behavior may
> not always be a conscious act. Lies are admitted, changed, and/or
> adapted if a false story is challenged. From Andrea Broadbent "The
> Truth about Truman": To begin, the definition of pathological
> actually means abnormal or grossly atypical. Therefore, a
> pathological liar prevaricates more frequently than the average
> person or tells more abnormal lies. In most cases, pathological liars
> tell lies that are "unplanned and impulsive" (Hausman). These lies
> are usually very emotional stories that tend to serve no purpose
> except to impress people (Ford 133). As of now, psychiatrists are
> unsure whether or not pathological liars are fully capable of
> realizing if and when they are lying, so detecting whether or not a
> person is a pathological liar is a very difficult task (Hausman). By
> looking at the list of conditions commonly connected with people
> considered to be pathological liars, psychiatrists are better able to
> determine whether or not a person might actually have the disorder.
> Some main qualities linked with pathological liars include
> dysfunctional family origin, family lying patterns, anomalies of
> sexual life, frequent substance abuse, and a great capacity for
> language. From Raymond Lloyd Richmond, Ph.D. "Psychological Honesty":
> Even a pathological liar carries deep in his heart a desire for
> goodness and honesty and yet, because of painful emotional wounds,
> believes that the world never has, and never will, recognize his
> pain. And so, to hide that pain from himself, he uses all the lies he
> can concoct to hurl at the world as he runs in fear from his own
> goodness.



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