Autor: Danijel Turina
Datum: 2008-08-18 17:01:21
Grupe: hr.soc.politika,hr.soc.religija,hr.soc.religija.krscanstvo.katolici
Tema: Re: CROSS : CRKVA&SAMOUBOJICE
Linija: 67
Message-ID: g8c2rm$mpb$11@ss408.t-com.hr

Zli_Zec wrote:
>> Pretpostavimo da je nastradali branitelj, (ne znam da li je preminuo),
>> katolik i vjernik, pa se pitam kako Crkva gleda na samoubojice? 
> 
> Jedna Sveta Katolička i Apsotolska Crkva širom Planete
> i u svim vremenima gleda na samoubojice kao na *teške grešnike*.
> 
> Nekad ih se zakapalo van groblja, na raskšćima, sa zabodenim
> kolcem. 
> 
> Tako Katolička Crkva kojoj ja pripadam (općesvjetska)
> A kako tome pristupa tobožnja i samoproglašena "crkva u Hrvata", 
> balkanski heretici, koji se ne klanjaju Bogu i Kristu 
> nego Krvavom Idolu Nacije, to njih pitaj. 
> Možda i samoubojicama opraštaju samo ako su "Naši"...

Gle, isto kao što ne postoji samo jedan tip ubojica tako ne postoji ni
samo jedan tip samoubojica. Postoje samoubojice iz gluposti i bahatosti,
recimo razmažena cura od 14 godina koju je ismijao dečko o kojem je
fantazirala a istovremeno dobije jedan iz povijesti, pa ode i baci se sa
zgrade. Onda imaš samoubojice kriminalce koji ubiju par ljudi a onda i
sebe, da bi izbjegli zatvor. Nakon toga imaš samoubojice iz očaja,
recimo netko se nađe u velikim dugovima, zelenaši i kamatari mu rade
sranje, ne vidi nikakav izlaz i ubije se. Imaš i teške bolesnike koji
umiru od neke polagane, mučne i ponižavajuće bolesti koja im nepovratno
degradira egzistenciju, pa zaključe da nema smisla polako umirati još
šest mjeseci, odluče to sve skratiti i ubiju se. Imaš i herojska
samoubojstva poput npr. Rodgera Younga koji je namjerno poginuo štiteći
svoju jedinicu u ratu[1].

Ukratko, imaš tu svega i svačega, ne bih ja samoubojstvo gledao kao
nužno negativan, grešan i moralno neispravan čin, ili pak indikator
psihičke poremećenosti. Ima samoubojstva koja jesu takva, ali u dosta
slučajeva samoubojstvo može biti moralno potpuno zdrav i posve
racionalan čin. Ja recimo ne vidim po čemu bi ona žena, koja je umirala
ne posebno gadne vrste raka koja joj je polako deformirala glavu, bila
grešna ili luda zato što je to sve okončala predoziranjem tabletama[2].

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[1]
Rodger Wilton Young (April 28, 1918 -- July 31, 1943) was an American
infantryman in the U.S. Army during World War II. He was killed on the
island of New Georgia while helping his platoon withdraw under enemy
fire. For his actions, he posthumously received the United States'
highest military decoration, the Medal of Honor. Young is remembered in
a song, "The Ballad of Rodger Young" by Frank Loesser, which extolled
his courage and willingness to die to protect his comrades in arms.
...
On 31 July 1943, on New Georgia, Young's platoon was pinned down by
intense fire from a Japanese machine gun concealed on higher ground 75
yards (69 m) away. The initial burst wounded Young. As the platoon
started to withdraw, Young called out that he could see the enemy
emplacement, and he started creeping toward it. Another burst from the
machine gun wounded him a second time. Despite his wounds, he continued
his advance, attracting enemy fire and answering with rifle fire. When
he was close enough to the machine gun emplacement, he began throwing
hand grenades, and while doing so, he was hit again and killed. By
diverting the fire of the machine gun, Young enabled his platoon to
withdraw without loss. He was also responsible for several enemy casualties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodger_Wilton_Young

[2]
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/03/20/france.tumor/index.html

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