On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:49:47 +0100, Luksa wrote:

> Sto se tice toga da nijedan Islamski tumac Kurana nije nikada tvrdio da je
> zemlja ravna ploca je naprosto posljedica cinjenice da to u Kuranu nigdje
> eksplicitno ne pise, a Isamski teolozi su bili malo mudriji od krscanskih
> pa se u znanost nisu petljali jer su skuzili da u Kuranu ima sasvim
> dovoljno "mesa" da objasne svaku znanstvenu pojavu.

To uopce nije istina. Citirao sam svojedobno ajet iz Kur'ana i komentar
islamskog teologa u kojem se jasno veli da je zemlja ravna ploca, a da su u
krivu "neuki" znanstvenici koji tvrde suprotno. 

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Quran/Science/earth_flat.html
"       Do they not look at the camels how they are made.
      And the sky how it is raised high.
      And the mountains how they are fixed firm.
      And the earth how it is spread out?
      (Wa ilal'ardi kayfa sutihat.)
      -- Sura 88:17-20 

Interpretation given in Al-Jalalein:

    At the earth how it is spread out(*) (Arabic: sutihat): meaning it was
stretched, so they can see in it a sign for the power of Allah ... and his
saying sutihat makes it obvious that the earth is flat, and this is
certified by Ulama' ash-shar'a (the shari'a theologians), not a globe as it
is said by ahlul-hay'a (the laymen)." (Tafseer Al-Jalalein. printed in
Damascus 1964. Al-Mallah Printshop and Bookstore) 

(*) The word "sutihat" is from the root word "sataha".

Note: The commentators are well informed about the scientific conclusion
that the earth is a globe, but the scientists are considered to be laymen
in regard to understanding the meaning of the Qur'an. Because revelation
has primacy over science, the Qur'an is the decisive basis for the
commentators to insist that the earth is flat. "


Malo teksta o Kur'anskoj kozmologiji:
http://www.answeringislam.org/Shamoun/whale_nun.htm

Osim toga,
http://www.answeringislam.org/Andy/fallacies.html
"I find it very interesting that the "modern science proves the Qur?an"
argument is a recent one. Can anybody find a Muslim scholar putting this
argument forward five hundred years ago? Or two hundred years ago? Or even
one hundred years ago? Answer: probably not. And the reason is that it is a
modern polemic. You see science is not a recent thing, yet this argument
is. Why? Because it is only recently that Muslims have found that people
have begun questioning the Qur?an, rather than accepting it blindly. The
need has arisen for more proofs of its "divine authorship", proofs that
might appeal to a scientific, Western mind-set, as Islam has sought to make
inroads in the west. And so this argument has arisen."

To su sve deset puta prezvakane stvari. Muslimani sirom svijeta koriste
iste logicke pogreske, to je sve ista ekipa, i na sve to je vec odgovoreno
prije nekoliko godina. Ovi nasi bosanci su samo malo u zaostatku, po
obicaju.

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