Autor: Danijel Turina
Datum: 2005-01-08 10:23:21
Grupe: hr.soc.religija.krscanstvo,bih.soc.religija,hr.fido.religija,yu.forum.relig
Tema: Re: =?windows-1250?Q?Nau=E8ni_dokazi_da_je_Kur=27an_Istina?=
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 09:57:06 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:

> Kur'an ne sadrzi nista od znanstvene
> vrijednosti, stovise sadrzi uglavnom hrpu gluposti koje se dijametralno
> kose sa znanoscu. To je kvalitetno objasnjeno na
> http://www.answeringislam.org/Quran/Science/index.htm

Na pod-linkovima sa te stranice stvarno ima hrpa informacija koje su jako
poducne za one koji misle da pretjerujem u kritici Kur'ana, recimo
http://www.answeringislam.org/Quran/Science/earth_flat.html

The Earth: Flat or Round?
What does the Qur'an Say?

      Do they not look at the camels how they are made.
      And the sky how it is raised high.
      And the mountains how they are fixed firm.
      And the earth how it is spread out?
      (Wa ilal'ardi kayfa sutihat.)
      -- Sura 88:17-20 

Interpretation given in Al-Jalalein:

    At the earth how it is spread out(*) (Arabic: sutihat): meaning it was
stretched, so they can see in it a sign for the power of Allah ... and his
saying sutihat makes it obvious that the earth is flat, and this is
certified by Ulama' ash-shar'a (the shari'a theologians), not a globe as it
is said by ahlul-hay'a (the laymen)." (Tafseer Al-Jalalein. printed in
Damascus 1964. Al-Mallah Printshop and Bookstore) 

(*) The word "sutihat" is from the root word "sataha".

Note: The commentators are well informed about the scientific conclusion
that the earth is a globe, but the scientists are considered to be laymen
in regard to understanding the meaning of the Qur'an. Because revelation
has primacy over science, the Qur'an is the decisive basis for the
commentators to insist that the earth is flat. 
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Takodjer i http://humanists.net/avijit/article/flat_earth_kasem.htm


?P        Earth spread out (like a carpet), mountains firm?K15:19

[al-Hijr 15:19] And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set
thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of
things in due balance.

?P        God made earth like a carpet spread out?K20:53

 [Ta Ha 20:53] "He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread
out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has
sent down water from the sky." With it have We produced diverse pairs of
plants each separate from the others.

?P        The earth is like a carpet spread out?K43.10

 [az-Zukhruf 43:10] (Yea, the same that) has made for you the earth (like a
carpet) spread out, and has made for you roads (and channels) therein, in
order that ye may find guidance (on the way);

?P        Allah spread out earth and set mountains standing firm?K50: 7

 [Qaf 50:7] And the earth- We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains
standing firm, and produced therein every kind of beautiful growth (in
pairs)-

?P        Allah has spread out the earth?K51:48

 [adh-Dhariyat 51:48] And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: How
excellently We do spread out!

?P        Allah made the earth a carpet?K71:19

 [Nuh 71:19] "'And God has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out),

?P        Allah made the earth as a wide expanse?K78:6

 [an-Naba' 78:6] Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse,

?P        The earth is made as a wide expanse?K79:30

 [an-Nazi`at 79:30] And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide
expanse);

?P        Allah set up mountains firm lest the earth shake?K16:15

 [an-Nahl 16:15] And He has set up on the earth mountains standing firm,
lest it should shake with you; and rivers and roads; that ye may guide
yourselves;

?P        Allah set on mountains high lest the earth shake with them?K21:31

 [al-Anbiya' 21:31] And We have set on the earth mountains standing firm,
lest it should shake with them, and We have made therein broad highways
(between mountains) for them to pass through: that they may receive
Guidance.

Allah set mountains immovable?K27.61

 [an-Naml 27:61] Or, Who has made the earth firm to live in; made rivers in
its midst; set thereon mountains immovable; and made a separating bar
between the two bodies of flowing water? (can there be another) god besides
God? Nay, most of them know not.

?P        Allah set mountains firm for earth not to shake?K31:10

 [Luqman 31:10] He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see;
He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you;
and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the
sky, and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs.

?P        Allah put mountains standing firm?K77:27

 [al-Mursalat 77:27] And made therein mountains standing firm, lofty (in
stature); and provided for you water sweet (and wholesome)?

?P        Allah put mountains as pegs?K78:7

 [an-Naba' 78:7] And the mountains as pegs

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