On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:45:28 +0100, eMIR wrote:

>> nevjernicke drzave, koje ne stuju Allaha, pa naprosto nisu mogli izdrzati.
>> A da ne govorimo o plijenu i pljacki kao bitnom motivu, zbog kojeg Muhamed
>> nije prezao ni muciti ljude u mjestima koja je osvojio i opljackao, pa ih
>> je pekao uzarenim zeljezom dok ne bi odali gdje je ostatak zlata. Mirna
>> religija koja oklijeva ratovati, nema sto. 
> 
> Kunem se Allahom, u islamu je strogo zabranjeno kaznjavati vatrom. Gdje 
> god si cuo to sto si cuo, slagano ti je.

Sirat Rasulallah. Muhamed je imao specificne ideje - ne bi on nikoga zivog
spalio, ali uzareno zeljezo je u islamu uvijek radilo posao. Cisto za
informaciju kako muslimani razmisljaju. 

http://www.answeringislam.org/Silas/kinana.htm

The oldest extant biography of Muhammad is called the "Sirat Rasulallah" ?X
"Life of the Prophet of Allah".  This book was written by Ibn Ishaq, a
devout Muslim scholar, and later revised by Ibn Hisham.  It was written
before any of the major works of Hadith.  It is considered the most
authentic biography of Muhammad.  It was translated into English by A.
Guillaume as "The Life of Muhammad".

            page 515 reads:

         "Kinana al-Rabi, who had the custody of the treasure of Banu
Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it.  He denied that
he knew where it was.  A Jew came (Tabari says "was brought"), to the
apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every
morning early.  When the apostle said to Kinana, "Do you know that if we
find you have it I shall kill you?"  He said "Yes".  The apostle gave
orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was
found.  When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the
apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr Al-Awwam, "Torture him until you extract
what he has."  So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until
he was nearly dead.  Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama
and he struck off his head, in revenge for his brother Mahmud."

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