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voda wrote:
> "Danijel Turina" wrote:
>
>> Vidio sam ja dosta homoseksualaca
>
> Kako to mislis dosta, u kojim sve prilikama?
>
> Hm...

Tomek si ne može zamisliti da netko zna pedera a nije ga jebao. Hm...

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Zli_Zec wrote:
> Aha, krasno su te opisali.

Vidio sam ja dosta homoseksualaca, ali nijedan nije bio ni približno
toliki idiot kao ti. Ti si fenomen.

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Sinisa Knezevic wrote:
>> Još samo Pricina slika fali u člancima:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica
>> http://healthmad.com/mental-health/how-to-spot-a-pathological-liar/
>>
>> How to Spot a Pathological Liar
>
> How to cure a Pathological Liar?
>
> Ako je to sfera psihopatologije pitanje je ima li lijeka?

Mora dobiti osjećaj stvarne vrijednosti, lažu zato što se osjećaju
bezvrijedno. Zato sam ga pokušao na sve načine dobiti da se istinski
inicira, to bi mu dalo stvarnu vrijednost i onda bi mu se psiha sredila
kao korolar.

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Danijel Turina wrote:
> Još samo Pricina slika fali u člancima:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica
> http://healthmad.com/mental-health/how-to-spot-a-pathological-liar/
>
> How to Spot a Pathological Liar
>
> -They change their story all the time -They will exaggerate and lie
> about everything, the smallest and easiest things to tell the truth
> about and the big serious things -What ever you do, they can do it
> better. -They often don't value the truth, and can often live in
> their own type of reality. -They will act defensively when questioned
> or challenged, they see their lies as not hurting anyone -They lie
> for sympathy or to seem better -They usually never own up to the lies
> -They contradict what they say, they lose track of the many lies
> told -They lie because they are insecure

Ima još:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_tell_if_someone_is_a_pathological_liar

> Identifying a Pathological Liar
>
> Pathological liars, or "mythomaniacs," may be suffering from
> histrionic personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder.
> The following comments basically reflect a pathological liar who has
> the characteristics of histrionic personality disorder. Some
> characteristics 1. Exaggerates things that are ridiculous. 2.
> One-upping. Whatever you do, this person can do it better. You will
> never top them in their own mind, because they have a concerted need
> to be better than everyone else. This also applies to being right. If
> you try to confront an individual like this, no matter how lovingly
> and well-intentioned you might be - this will probably not be
> effective. It's threatening their fantasy of themselves, so they
> would rather argue with you and bring out the sharp knives than admit
> that there's anything wrong with them. 3. They "construct" a reality
> around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they
> don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they
> are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly
> things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may
> eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're
> making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the
> conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs). 4. Because these
> people don't value honesty, a lot of times they will not value
> loyalty. So watch what you tell them. They will not only tell others,
> but they will embellish to make you look worse. Their loyalty is
> fleeting, and because they are insecure people, they will find solace
> in confiding to whomever is in their favor at the moment. 5. They may
> be somewhat of a hypochondriac. This can come in especially useful
> when caught in a lie, for example, they can claim that they have been
> sick, or that there's some mysteriously "illness" that has them all
> stressed out. It's another excuse tool for their behavior. 6.
> Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very
> clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so
> many lies (who would be?). Another WikiAnswers Contributor adds: They
> lie about even the smallest things. For example, saying "I brushed my
> teeth today," when they didn't. They add exaggerations to every
> sentence. They change their story all the time. They act very
> defensively when you question their statements. They believe what
> they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn't.
>
> An alternate 'checklist': Lies when it is very easy to tell the
> truth. Lies to get sympathy, to look better, to save their butt, etc.
> Fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes
> anything they ever say. May have a personality disorder. Extremely
> manipulative. Has been caught in lies repeatedly. Never fesses up to
> the lies. Is a legend in their own mind.
>
> More opinions and input from WikiAnswers contributors: I have found a
> few differences in pathological liar and a "slime ball" liar.
> Pathological liars cannot tell that they are lying; they actually
> believe the lie as soon as it comes out of their mouth. They lie
> about unimportant things that don't really matter to anyone. This can
> be caused by mental defect but isn't always. Slime-ball liars lie
> about things that make them look better or embellish to get
> attention. They also lie to keep their butts out of trouble and to
> get what they want. Here are things to ask yourself: How could this
> many things happen to one person? Would believe these stories if
> someone else told you? Think back to the beginning: you had red flags
> and alarms going off in you head. Learn to trust your instincts. It
> is very hard to tell when one is a pathological liar. Some people
> just are liars and lie to lie because they can and they don't care
> about getting caught and aware that you know they have lied. These
> people care not about lying, it's no big deal. It's like "ok, so
> what? I lied". The pathological liar on the other hand, IS aware that
> they are lying BUT will go to extremes to make you believe that they
> are truthful. They appear to believe their own lies BUT in truth,
> they know their lies are just that, lies. But because their efforts
> are constantly backing up their lies, it appears to us that they
> actually believe their lies, when we eventually do find out about
> them and then we tend to feel sorry for these people. Then they have
> an excuse, "I am sick, I don't know why I lie, I believed what I was
> saying etc." The only truth was the fact that they don't know why
> they lie. Other than that it's crap. It is true that most of them
> have an extremely low sense of self worth and are continuously trying
> to make themselves feel better about THEMSELVES and this is one
> reason they lie. It is about them but the lies are not always set up
> with the purpose to hurt some one else; it's that these people feel
> so low about themselves they need to create ANYTHING different from
> the ugly reality they feel about themselves so they lie about even
> the most tiniest little thing. The people closest to them get sucked
> into these lies which sometimes start as something very trivial and
> then turn into something that can turn everyone involved worlds
> upside down and inside out. Unmasking the pathological liar is an
> easier task when the pathological liar is no more than a casual
> acquaintence to the "un-masker." Close relationships provide
> camouflage for the pathological liar, and intimacy provides a
> heavily-fortressed breeding ground. Other indicators: 1) Rage attacks
> after they realize you're questioning their lies. 2) Distraction
> techniques, e.g. hanging up the phone when you catch them in lie,
> playing word games, or even just running out of the room. After using
> the distraction technique, or rage attack, or sometimes both, they
> will pretend that nothing ever happened. They re-write history, so it
> never did happen in their minds. Normal people do it too, but these
> people take it to the extreme. From "Go Ask Alice": Lies are
> unplanned and impulsive. Behavior is repeated over a long period of
> time. Lies don't seem to exist for any external reason. Behavior may
> not always be a conscious act. Lies are admitted, changed, and/or
> adapted if a false story is challenged. From Andrea Broadbent "The
> Truth about Truman": To begin, the definition of pathological
> actually means abnormal or grossly atypical. Therefore, a
> pathological liar prevaricates more frequently than the average
> person or tells more abnormal lies. In most cases, pathological liars
> tell lies that are "unplanned and impulsive" (Hausman). These lies
> are usually very emotional stories that tend to serve no purpose
> except to impress people (Ford 133). As of now, psychiatrists are
> unsure whether or not pathological liars are fully capable of
> realizing if and when they are lying, so detecting whether or not a
> person is a pathological liar is a very difficult task (Hausman). By
> looking at the list of conditions commonly connected with people
> considered to be pathological liars, psychiatrists are better able to
> determine whether or not a person might actually have the disorder.
> Some main qualities linked with pathological liars include
> dysfunctional family origin, family lying patterns, anomalies of
> sexual life, frequent substance abuse, and a great capacity for
> language. From Raymond Lloyd Richmond, Ph.D. "Psychological Honesty":
> Even a pathological liar carries deep in his heart a desire for
> goodness and honesty and yet, because of painful emotional wounds,
> believes that the world never has, and never will, recognize his
> pain. And so, to hide that pain from himself, he uses all the lies he
> can concoct to hurl at the world as he runs in fear from his own
> goodness.



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Još samo Pricina slika fali u člancima:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica
http://healthmad.com/mental-health/how-to-spot-a-pathological-liar/

How to Spot a Pathological Liar

-They change their story all the time
-They will exaggerate and lie about everything, the smallest and easiest
things to tell the truth about and the big serious things
-What ever you do, they can do it better.
-They often don't value the truth, and can often live in their own type
of reality.
-They will act defensively when questioned or challenged, they see their
lies as not hurting anyone
-They lie for sympathy or to seem better
-They usually never own up to the lies
-They contradict what they say, they lose track of the many lies told
-They lie because they are insecure

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Sinisa Knezevic wrote:
> "Danijel Turina" <NAME@danijel.org> wrote:
>> E sad, da se vratimo na yogijsku tradiciju i njeno jednostavno
>> objašnjenje razina. To objašnjenje je jednostavno ne zato što je autor
>> bio blesav, nego zato što je bio pametan. On je definirao interval, to
>> opisuje stvar na sasvim točan i zadovoljavajući način, i ukoliko nećeš
>> raditi egzibicije s višom matematikom za koje nema stvarne potrebe, to
>> je zapravo sve što se o tome korisno može reći. S druge strane, teozofi
>> su pokušavali ispasti jako pametni, pa su izmišljali pizdarije na temu
>> sedam razina sa sedam rekurzivnih razina za svaku, i onda valjda sedam
>> razina rekurzije u dubinu, a sve to je luk i voda, sljeparija koju su
>> izmislili pokušavajući zvučati znanstvenije i pametnije kako bi privukli
>> publiku.
>
> Prema nekim teorijama svemir ima oblik (uvjetno govoreći o pojmu oblika)
> torusa/hipersfere. Tražeći na Googleu slike za taj oblik nabasao sam na
> sliejdeći link kojeg nema samostalno nego samo u arhivi Googlea:

Da pitaš Zeca, svemir bi imao oblik velikog kurca s jajima, i što sad s tim.

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Stjepan Bunić wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:35:52 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:
>
>>> Posalji tu sliku.
>
>> Ma da, to su fore na temu "evo moje fotke koju sam snimio kad sam s
>> društvom bio na Everestu: http://www.angelnepal.com/images/everest.jpg
>> Jest da mene nema na njoj ali to je zato što sam slikao Everest a ne
>> sebe,
>
> Danijele, kako te nije sram širiti takve neistine, naravno da te ima na
> njoj. To je original:
>
> http://radodesign.webs.com/everest_original.jpg
>
> To sam te ja slikao kad smo išli na Tibet k Radoslavovom duhovnom učitelju
> pa smo usput skoknuli na Everest, ali si ti sebe Photoshopom maknuo s te
> slike ljudi ne bi znali da Radoslavov učitelj na Tibetu doista postoji.
>
> :)

E jebiga, sad si me provalio, idem se ubit. :)

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Suzana Tepsic wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:49:23 +0100, "Drazen Simunic" <nema@nema.nema>
> wrote:
>
>>> Moja najveca greska sa tobom je sto sam na trenutak pomislio da si castan
>>> covjek.
>> Ma kak ti se to dogodilo? Pa znas nas policajce.
>> Ne da smo glupi nego smo i podmitljivi. :))
>
> Ma lako za to :) ali ti nisi "castan" po felixovim mjerilima za cast.
> :))
>
> Ovo je isto kao da mafijas govori policajcu koji ga je uhapsio da nije
> castan.
>
> Ja se sve vishe pitam zna li felix uopce sto je po definiciji "cast".

To je mehanizam koji lažljivac koristi kako bi se izmotavao kad ga traže
dokaze ili na drugi način priklješte. Još nisam vidio patološkog
lažljivca koji se ne bi na točno takav način nadurio kad ga pitaš nešto
na što je osjetljiv.

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Suzana Tepsic wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:42:47 +0000 (UTC), Radoslav Prica
> <fake@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
>
>> No, necete se tako izvuci. Ja cu naci nacin da te slike nadjem na net makar se ne
>> kuzim u to kak se to radi.
>
>
> Zamoli Steficu ili Gogu da ti dodju objasniti.

To ti je lik koji se deset godina preserava po linux kanalu na ircu i
isprobava linux distribucije, čovjek bi očekivao da zna resizati i
uploadati fotku na web. It's so fucking simple: otvoriš si account na
nekom image sharing sajtu i uploadaš. Ako mu je photoshop ispod časti
koristiti jer je to za "wimblovse", iz komandne linije je to convert
-resize 800 source.tif target.jpg

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Suzana Tepsic wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:42:47 +0000 (UTC), Radoslav Prica
> <fake@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-03-11, Mario Blataric <mblataric_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11.3.2010. 15:29, Radoslav Prica wrote:
>>>> Ovak.. to su slike sa dva safarija. Ima ukupno prekoneloliko tisuca slika. Naime bilo je dosta ekipe
>>>> i svi su slikali pa smo na kraju sve slike medjusobno sherali. Tko da ima slika i sa mobitelom i sa
>>>> "iditom" i sa Nikonon, Canonom. Izabrao sam par meni ljepsih slika.
>
>> Poslat cu ono sto sam slikao. SEBE nisam slikao niti mi je tako nesto palo na pamet:)))))))
>
>
> Paaaaa, izmedju "prekonekoliko tisuca slika" sigurno ima i neka na
> kojoj si i ti na Velebitu.
>
> Ok, ja razumijem da si ti na iskreni tragalac za istinom, i da zbog
> toga sto se istina skriva u cvijecu, brdima, kamenu i nebu, slikas
> samo to. Ali nekako cisto sumnjam da je ostali dio "ekipe sa safarija"
> toliko produhovljen kao tvoja malenkost, pa su oni sigurno slikali i
> ljude sa kojima su bili na safariju. Vjerujem da postoji minimum jedna
> zajednicka slika.
>
> Posalji tu sliku.

Ma da, to su fore na temu "evo moje fotke koju sam snimio kad sam s
društvom bio na Everestu: http://www.angelnepal.com/images/everest.jpg
Jest da mene nema na njoj ali to je zato što sam slikao Everest a ne
sebe, a naravno da ćete mi svi vjerovati da je tako, jer ću vam inače
reći da ste luđaci iz sekte kokošinjca i čopora".

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